WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.400 --> 00:00:10.760 align:center line:-1Interviewer: Thank you for accepting my interview. Were you born in the 1930’s or ‘40’s? 2 00:00:10.770 --> 00:00:12.430 align:center line:-1 I was born in 1941. 3 00:00:12.440 --> 00:00:14.710 align:center line:-1 Interviewer: Where were you born? 4 00:00:14.720 --> 00:00:15.990 align:center line:-1 In the countryside. 5 00:00:16.000 --> 00:00:17.560 align:center line:-1 Interviewer: Which province was it? 6 00:00:17.570 --> 00:00:19.390 align:center line:-1 Hubei. 7 00:00:19.400 --> 00:00:28.250 align:center line:-1 Interviewer: Oh, the Hubei countryside. The 10 years between 1966 and 1976 were called the Cultural Revolution. Have you heard of it? 8 00:00:28.260 --> 00:00:37.510 align:center line:-1 Yes. We were still working on agricultural production while the revolution was in progress. 9 00:00:37.520 --> 00:00:42.650 align:center line:-1 Interviewer: Did you see the rebel faction in your area? 10 00:00:42.660 --> 00:00:48.810 align:center line:-1 Yes. They did their revolution and rebellion. We did our work. 11 00:00:48.820 --> 00:00:53.090 align:center line:-1 Interviewer: So you were working, but you saw the rebels. 12 00:00:53.100 --> 00:00:54.340 align:center line:-1 Yes. 13 00:00:54.350 --> 00:00:55.710 align:center line:-1 Interviewer: Did you see the Red Guards? 14 00:00:55.720 --> 00:01:01.390 align:center line:-1 Yes. The Red Guards were all over the countryside, making revolution. 15 00:01:01.400 --> 00:01:05.480 align:center line:-1 Interviewer: Were they local Red Guards or did they come in from other regions? 16 00:01:05.490 --> 00:01:08.560 align:center line:-1 They were local. 17 00:01:08.570 --> 00:01:15.930 align:center line:-1 Interviewer: So they weren’t doing agricultural production work, were they? Were they the children of the peasants, too? 18 00:01:15.940 --> 00:01:18.540 align:center line:-1 Right, they were peasants’ children, too. 19 00:01:18.550 --> 00:01:23.730 align:center line:-1 Interviewer: So, peasants' children also became Red Guards and rebelled. Who were their targets? 20 00:01:23.740 --> 00:01:33.850 align:center line:-1 Whatever cadres had gotten mixed up in some trouble, such as taking bribes. The cadres were tied up and beaten. 21 00:01:33.860 --> 00:01:35.990 align:center line:-1 Interviewer: So they targeted the cadres. 22 00:01:36.000 --> 00:01:41.700 align:center line:-1 Yes, the cadres. Even if the masses weren’t right about it, they still did it -- 23 00:01:41.710 --> 00:01:46.340 align:center line:-1 [interviewee's husband, off-screen]: [They targeted] "those in power." [interviewee]: -- landlords and others were still targeted. 24 00:01:46.350 --> 00:01:48.670 align:center line:-1 Interviewer: Oh, they targeted landlords. Did you actually witness that? 25 00:01:48.680 --> 00:01:59.010 align:center line:-1 Of course. We farmers worked in agricultural production all day, so in the evening, of course we saw the Red Guards' [struggle meetings]. 26 00:01:59.020 --> 00:02:06.560 align:center line:-1 Interviewer: I see. What about your material life during those 10 years? 27 00:02:06.570 --> 00:02:16.380 align:center line:-1 The Red Guards were rebelling. But life was okay -- it was just that agricultural production was ruined. 28 00:02:16.390 --> 00:02:19.850 align:center line:-1 Interviewer: So they did their rebellion and you did your work. You worked your land. 29 00:02:19.860 --> 00:02:20.810 align:center line:-1 Yes. 30 00:02:20.820 --> 00:02:25.240 align:center line:-1 Interviewer: So there was enough grain for you then. 31 00:02:25.250 --> 00:02:28.990 align:center line:-1 Yes. There was enough grain. 1959 and 1960 were tough times. 32 00:02:29.000 --> 00:02:31.990 align:center line:-1 [husband, off-screen]: You're intellectuals, you... 33 00:02:32.000 --> 00:02:33.990 align:center line:-1 Interviewer: So you didn’t have enough food in ’59 and ’60? 34 00:02:34.000 --> 00:02:40.990 align:center line:-1 Right. Since there wasn't much to eat, some people starved to death. 35 00:02:41.000 --> 00:02:46.280 align:center line:-1 Interviewer: But between ’66 and ’76, you had enough to eat? 36 00:02:46.290 --> 00:02:47.090 align:center line:-1 Yes. 37 00:02:47.100 --> 00:02:55.450 align:center line:-1 Interviewer: Very well. Thank you. Can you tell me if you are literate? Did you go to school? 38 00:02:55.460 --> 00:02:58.420 align:center line:-1 No, I didn’t go to school. 39 00:02:58.430 --> 00:03:00.990 align:center line:-1 Interviewer: But you remember you saw the rebel faction in those years. 40 00:03:01.000 --> 00:03:09.630 align:center line:-1 Yes. [At the time we saw the] rebel faction, we were in our 20s and 30s. I was in my 20s then. 41 00:03:09.640 --> 00:03:13.530 align:center line:-1 Interviewer: But you didn’t join the Red Guards yourself. 42 00:03:13.540 --> 00:03:22.820 align:center line:-1 No. We were really busy farming. Generally, Red Guards were kids or unmarried young men. 43 00:03:22.830 --> 00:03:23.960 align:center line:-1 Interviewer: Sorry? What kind of young men? 44 00:03:23.970 --> 00:03:26.990 align:center line:-1 Unmarried. 45 00:03:27.000 --> 00:03:29.240 align:center line:-1 Interviewer: Oh, young unmarried men. 46 00:03:29.250 --> 00:03:48.990 align:center line:-1 [husband, off-screen]: At that time, people in their teens and twenties were traveling between counties under the banner of the Red Guards, because the Red Guards could get everything for free. 47 00:03:49.000 --> 00:03:51.940 align:center line:-1 Interviewer: It wasn’t called travel at the time. It was called “great networking.” 48 00:03:51.950 --> 00:03:52.980 align:center line:-1 Right, "great networking." 49 00:03:52.990 --> 00:03:57.990 align:center line:-1 [husband, off-screen]: Right, the time of the "great networking." 50 00:03:58.000 --> 00:04:02.350 align:center line:-1 Interviewer: All right. Thank you very much for accepting my interview. Very good.
Reddit
Twitter
Facebook