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C., Chick, February 21, 1976, tape 2, side 2

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Charner C.:  And the people that was joining them and all like that, they
would get fired and everything like that and I wouldn't take it. But after
I heard him make a speech up there in West Field on a platform, he said the
union. He said he knows men in the Mill come out the Mill now. Living now
and they're getting a pension and it don't even come to 30 dollars. Getting
a pension and don't even come to 30 dollars. That's what he said. This man
speak like that and he said a lot of people working there now. He said, you
joined that union. You see a lot of people coming like me. They, they
thought the company could fire, you know, by, by joining this. You know
what I mean? He said the company can't fire you a bit more than I can. One
of the best things you get, get in that Union. All that-- a lot of you of
course didn't join and didn't belong to it, just like me. You know, they
didn't know. He said, join that Union. And after I heard him speak, I went
on and joined. Peter Gottlieb: Was that the CIO Union? Charner C.: Yeah.
Gottlieb: Hadn't there been another union there a little bit before the CIO
union? The Amalgamated--

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Charner C.:  There was a union way years ago, before I came here. I don't
know what that was, but. But that was out of existence, this time. At this
time. Yeah.

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Gottlieb:  You don't remember any lodge called the spirit of 1892 then? In
the Mill?

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Charner C.:  Nah, I don't remember that. No. Maybe that was before I came.

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Gottlieb:  Well, those are all the questions that I had to ask you. If you
think I've left anything out that would be important for me to know about
I'd appreciate you telling me.

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Charner C.:  And I'm just thinking now. I'm just thinking, now.
[unintelligible]. I don't know of anything else.

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Gottlieb:  Well I'm almost out of tape anyway. So thank you very much.