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Berman, Helen, March 12, 1976, tape 2, side 2

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Elaine Weissman:  About the founding of Montefiore Hospital. You mentioned
that you collected donations or pledges. Is there anything else about the
people you worked with. Helen Berman: I worked with Florence Davis. Elaine
Weissman: And how long did you people collect the money before you were
able to get the, uh, hospital started? Berman: I don't know how long it
took. But I know I worked for months. Elaine Weissman: Mhm. Do you remember
anyone who gave big donations or anything like that?

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Berman:  I got a big, big donation. The amount, but I mean larger than the
average because, see,some of the women really have no right to undertake
that because they don't have enough push. You know, and while while I'm not
the kind of woman that will come in one door and throw me out of one door
and come in the other, I you have to do with that and that and collecting,
which you wouldn't do otherwise, you know. And I went into the Carnegie
Steel one time.

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Elaine Weissman:  The corporations were all approached.

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Berman:  And, and uh, I sort of talked myself into the. Main offices, and I
told them what I was there for and. And there was no reason. I don't
remember it so long ago, but, you know, that he collected from the
employees and got hundreds of dollars.

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Elaine Weissman:  What was the average donation from a household? For
instance? Do you remember what people gave in those days?

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Berman:  Very so. Very.

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Berman:  Most of them. Most of they.

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Berman:  Pledged it would be anywhere from 25 to $5000. That was.

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Elaine Weissman:  What do you think of intermarriage?

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Berman:  Well.

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Berman:  It's like many other things. My opinion is that most times it
doesn't work. Most times there is some friction, but then there's friction
with a Jew and a Jew too. So maybe I'm wrong.

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Elaine Weissman:  So if your son had married a non-Jew, you would have
accepted her into your-- depending-- Berman: Well, if she.

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Berman:  I would rather not because of my fear of it not working. It's the
children. And see, I think, too, what influences me is I've had 1 or 2
examples. We have a Jewish lawyer downtown.

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Berman:  Can I mention names.

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Elaine Weissman:  If you wish.

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Berman:  Jimmy Lippert. Very nice. And he married a Catholic girl from
Castle Shannon. And then they had no children and they adopted a little
girl. Well, what happened when I said, Hilda, what is what is Marilyn going
to be?

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Berman:  I think the children are confused.

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Berman:  And she said, What do you mean? What is Marilyn going to be? She's
going to be strictly Catholic. And she was.

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Elaine Weissman:  Have your views on Zionism changed?

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Berman:  I never had any definite. Way of thinking, but to me I always felt
that Zionist was just Zionism was just a form of, uh, hope for liberation.
I always thought it was. Is that right?

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Elaine Weissman:  Well, it's more or less the establishment of a national
home for the Jews.

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Berman:  Well, what's wrong with that?

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Elaine Weissman:  Nothing wrong with it. Some people, uh, have, uh, felt
more strongly recently because of the state of Israel and the great need.

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Berman:  So I think it was always there.

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Elaine Weissman:  Did you ever belong to an organization specifically for
Russian Jews or Romanian Jews? In the 19 tens, the Jewish Philanthropies
became a federation. Uh, some changes occurred. Did it affect you in any
way? Well in any way in the 19 tens. You were quite young at the time.
Berman: I don't know. Elaine Weissman: Uh, have you ever, uh, what other
groups, uh, for Jewish people. Have you joined? I mean, you said Hadassah
and National Council.

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Berman:  Home for the aged.

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Elaine Weissman:  And have you dropped from membership in any of them?

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Berman:  Just the desk.

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Berman:  Oh, and I belong to the.

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Berman:  To the one of your auxiliary.

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Elaine Weissman:  Where are your parents buried? All right. Do you know the
name of the cemetery? Berman: Yes. Elaine Weissman: Do you own a cemetery
plot for yourself. Where is it? Is there such a thing as a family plot? Is
there anyone else or is there anything else you'd like to talk about? Any
information? Any further information on Montefiore or Rodef Shalom? You
said you worked for the Salvation Army.

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Berman:  My seven years.

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Elaine Weissman:  Uh huh. What did you do for them? Collect? Something
happened in the air and there was two other organizations, the Red Cross.

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Berman:  And the United Fund.

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Elaine Weissman:  And you would get donations for them too. Is there anyone
else you think I might, uh, interview? An old timer from Pittsburgh.

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Berman:  My son. You know, I don't think I have. So. I really feel bad.

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Berman:  You know, there's something about.

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Berman:  You know.

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Berman:  Too, I think that while I don't make that vast difference in.
Financial circumstances. I think two is wrong to make that difference in
age because I find many times that there are people of 80, 70 and 80 that
are younger and more desirable to be with than some are 40 and 50.

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Elaine Weissman:  Right. Well, thank.